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How Many People to Treat to Help One

Trials report benefit as a percentage, which sounds impressive and tells you nothing about your own odds. FLOW published the number needed to treat instead — 22, 13 and 17 over three years.

By Nora Bissett · Pricing Editor
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Trials almost always report benefit as a percentage reduction, which sounds impressive and tells you nothing about your own odds. The FLOW cardiovascular analysis did something rarer: it published the number needed to treat — how many people take the drug for three years so that one of them avoids the outcome.[1] The answers were 22, 13 and 17.

What number needed to treat means

A 26% reduction in risk is a ratio. It describes how much the odds shift, not how likely the event was to begin with. Cutting a 40% risk by a quarter is a very different proposition from cutting a 0.4% risk by a quarter, and the same percentage describes both.

Number needed to treat collapses that into one figure: treat this many people for this long, and one of them will avoid the event who otherwise would not have. It is the statistic that answers the question a patient is actually asking, and it is the one most papers leave out.

Low numbers are good. An NNT of 13 means one person in thirteen benefits. For comparison, statins for primary prevention of a first heart attack typically run in the high double or low triple digits over five years — and are considered clearly worthwhile. Context matters more than the raw figure, but 13 to 22 for a hard kidney outcome over three years is a strong showing.

The trial and the subgroups

Everyone in FLOW carried two diagnoses at once — type 2 diabetes, plus kidney disease already established — and half of them drew weekly semaglutide at 1.0 mg. Its primary outcome was a composite of serious kidney deterioration — a halving of filtration rate, filtration falling below 15, dialysis, transplantation — together with kidney or cardiovascular death. This analysis split the trial by cardiovascular status at entry.

FLOW primary kidney outcome by baseline cardiovascular status, with the number needed to treat over three years.[[cite:1]]
SubgroupWith the conditionWithout itP interactionNNT
Atherosclerotic CV diseaseHR 0.80 (0.63–1.02)HR 0.74 (0.62–0.89)0.6222
Heart failureHR 0.67 (0.49–0.93)HR 0.79 (0.67–0.93)0.4013
High total CV risk (PREVENT ≥20%)HR 0.73 (0.58–0.91)HR 0.73 (0.49–1.08)0.9917

All-cause death moved in the same direction throughout, with hazard ratios between 0.71 and 0.82 across every subgroup and no sign of heterogeneity.

Why some intervals cross 1 and it does not matter here

Read down the hazard ratio columns and several intervals include 1 — atherosclerotic disease at 0.63 to 1.02, all-cause death in the heart-failure group at 0.54 to 1.05. Taken alone, each of those says “not established.”

That is exactly what splitting a trial does. Halve the participants and you halve the events, which widens every interval regardless of whether the underlying effect changed. Subgroup intervals crossing 1 in a trial whose overall result was positive is the expected picture, not a warning sign.

The column that matters is the interaction P, and here it is reassuring in the opposite direction from usual. At 0.62, 0.40 and 0.99, these tests find no evidence that the subgroups behave differently from one another. The right conclusion is not “it works in heart failure and maybe not in atherosclerotic disease” — it is that the drug worked and the split found nothing.

That is the mirror image of a case we covered separately, where an interaction P of .06 sat under a table that looked like a clean split — the statistic that asks if groups differ. Same test, opposite reading, and the pair is more instructive than either.

Why you cannot carry these numbers elsewhere

An NNT is not a property of a drug. It is a property of a drug in a population. Every participant carried diabetes and failing kidneys together — a group already close to the outcome being counted. In a lower-risk population, the same drug with the same relative effect produces a much larger NNT, because there are far fewer events available to prevent.

So these figures say something precise and narrow: for people with diabetes and kidney disease, treating between 13 and 22 for three years prevents one serious kidney outcome. Applied to someone taking a GLP-1 for weight without kidney disease, they would be fabricated. We are not going to extrapolate them and nobody else should either.

The dose is worth noting too: semaglutide 1.0 mg, the type 2 diabetes strength, not the 2.4 mg used for weight management. For the kidney evidence more broadly, see GLP-1s and your kidneys.

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References

  1. 1.Tuttle KR, Bakris GL, Baeres FMM, et al. Kidney and Survival Benefits of Semaglutide in Diabetes With Chronic Kidney Disease: FLOW Trial Cardiovascular Subgroup Analyses Journal of the American College of Cardiology. 2026. PMID: 42233552.

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